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Introductions - Tell us how you got here. ๐Ÿ˜

Angelina Farnes Watched 29/837 videos | Read 68/504 blogposts
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Hi everyone, I live in Mackay, Idaho, married to Rodney with four grown kids and a daughter-in-law. I work as an Administrative Assistant at the Naval Reactors Facility (yes, a secure government facility in a remote desert, bwahaha). I am seeking to heed Rob's counsel: "don't work for fools," before the next pandemic arrives (and it will be a lot more deadly!).


My story is like many of you, starting in the LDS tradition. Like Rob in my former life, I was a hard core, true blue, right-wing Mormon. Most all of my friends and extended family felt like I was off the rails in my devotion. After all, the more of their boxes you check, the better of a person you are...


So when a very trusted friend suggested I join the "Another Voice of Warning" and "LDS Freedom Forum" forums online, I was shocked to see so many differing points of view there amongst supposedly devout LDS people.


I had already, through some health challenges, researched and learned about the dark underbelly of the medical system, and then the educational, financial, and political system. I was blown away, and disappointed to realize I had spent a good portion of my life as an absolutely blind sheeple to the influence and control of the Gadiantons on all levels.


Yet my dishonesty would not allow me to consider that regarding the church, as well.


That changed when a fellow called Denver Snuffer came on the scene. I was invited to a discussion with truth seekers, but the pre-requisite was reading "The Second Conforter" by Denver. No way, no how was I going to read a book by someone who had been excommunicated. Not only no, but heck-to-the-no!


So my friend didn't give up on me, thank goodness, and I was finally convinced to give it a try just to silence my friend and get a pass to the meeting.


I read the first declaration in that book: the Second Comforter is actually a personal visit from our Savior, in the flesh, in this life, not in the next... And it is not only an offered blessing but a requirement for eternal life.


I was struck as if by lightning. I knew this was true. I'll never forget the place I was where I read this. (Helped that it was the shore of a peaceful, gorgeous alpine lake). ๐Ÿ˜


Wow, was I was shocked. I knew the LDS church does NOT teach this truth, and that it's not only possible but ... required?!


I knew that the church does NOT facilitate those who have experienced this to openly share their witness (any visitation, vision, or dream is actively hushed), nor to teach others how to get there.


Thus, I knew that it is NOT the Church of Christ. And I would NOT make it if I continued with them.


My heart and mind knew that this information would cause me to leave the LDS church at some point. And I was devastated! Just as Rob shared in his path, it was eviscerating to experience that realization. So when Rob teaches that not all truth feels good, this is a classic example. It may not feel good, but it feels right. And I knew it felt right.


So, I joined the Snuffer movement and greatly benefitted from his book "Passing the Heavenly Gift" which identifies so many red flags in the LDS church. However, at that time, he was adamant that we should stay in the church despite those flaws, which made no sense to me.


Meanwhike, there was a Gmail group I joined called the "Snuffer Readers Group" which was invaluable to me. Like-minded seekers of truth could process all these life-changing ideas and changes in their lives that had our world upside down suddenly. It was priceless to me to know I was not crazy and not alone in this new agonizingly difficult path outside of the church.


I did appreciate how Denver still believed Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon is indeed still true, even if the LDS church has gone astray.


However as with all movements that have no works to accompany their cliams of authority, Denver's went off the rails as well. I was particularly annoyed with some dweeb named Rob Smith who kept pointing out the things that Denver was out in left field on. ๐Ÿ˜


Wow did that guy ruffle my feathers!! I heard lots of bad whispers about Rob, which were enough for me to write him off (to my great later regret).


But God is merciful and allows us to receive truth in dribs and drabs if that's all we'll allow. So it is to my chagrin (and deepest gratitude) that I later learned that Denver proved to be a fake and I was again adrift. I went through teacher after teacher... each claiming amazing experiences, knowledge, and authority.


Each one eventually disappointed.


As Rob says, it's rarely the case that the more you get to know someone, the better they get. It's usually the opppsite, and such was the case with guru after guru, movement after movement, for me. And there are a lot of them, as we know.


So in the end, Rob's noodles were the only ones that stuck to the wall. ๐Ÿ˜


Even through all the times I've been so deeply offended (my fault of course) I have not found anything better. His teachings are the word of God that slice the heart asunder. Leaving the bad and adding the good, to help us ascend.


Rob's teachings of truth cut like the knife they're supposed to be. Truth is a wedge and we must necessarily use it to become closer to God or move further away.


And, to whom shall we go? No one else has the words of life. No one else has had Christ personally visit and say, in essence, "You're on the completely wrong path buddy. I couldn't care less about the LDS church."


Then move forward immediately on a new path, to being excommunicated, living in complete sinlessness, losing his career and reputation and company worth millions... to live simply and extremely frugally on the donations of about 30 people (when he has over 1.6k YouTube subscribers.) And spending his time writing books, blog posts, and posting videos-- all for you and for me.


Key for me: Rob is sinless.


I belive that.


End of story for anyone searching for a true messenger.


There is no other place to find the pure, unadulterated word of Christ. Rob is the man most like Christ that I know of. I regret the years of disdain and now feel only gratitide for his, and God's, patience with my hard heart.


And now for my "thankimony", haha!


***I am so grateful to God for leading me on this path to light and truth.


***I am so grateful to each of you for this path you're on with me. So glad you have opened your heart and mind to receive more and more light and truth.


***I love learning from each of you, in addition to Rob, and so grateful I can live in these end times to see God's arm revealed!


Love to each of you,

Angelina ๐Ÿ˜


My contact info:


Please reach out if you'd like: angelina dot farnes at gmail.


YouTube: Voice of Improvement

https://youtube.com/@gods_voice_is_our_conscience?si=Tu52a1i8h-Bd4i1J


X: Angelina Farnes

@comonaltia

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Thank you for sharing your story, Angelina. I am glad some of the noodles are sticking to the wall. On the topic of sinlessness, it is easy to feel like this is a daunting challenge. It is by no means a low bar, but the Lord laid down his life to make a step for us that makes it completely possible to rise up to living as we believe he would in our place at all times and in all places. We don't do that because we are special, but because he is, and in doing so, any goodness in us is necessarily his. We can all follow his example, and all of us should. It is always worth the cost.

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Angela thanks for sharing your story and thoughts. I remember years ago on an LDS mission when people told me "yeah and what if God tells me not to join your church?" and I always told them the same thing, and it always made my companions really annoyed with me - I said "that is a terrible question. you always do whatever God tells you to do."


And then one day he told me I need to change and that would just start with leaving the LDS church. For me doing this put me in an oddly weirder spot than before. With family who were active LDS - I had just given up my salvation and was now a spawn of evil. But to the dismay of the atheists in the family seeking their own vindication.. I absolutely believed more than ever in Jesus Christ the son of God and his direct role and intentions for my life and was actually more willing to preach to them or talk about truth in any way shape or form. (which has caused some... "situations").


Without going too far into a story that has so many parts, I discovered over the past couple years that when a person like me honestly and sincerely tells God "show me what you want me to do, show me what you want me to change. Lead me" that he just started pulling all the weakest and darkest places of my heart and soul to the surface for me and anyone around me with eyes to witness. Such a fire is excruciating and honestly my wife, kids and me are all not even past all that fire brings along with it.


And the reason I mention this here is not so much a warning but hopefully more of helpful encouragement when you find yourselves literally being walked by god himself to lose every single thing you have and keep your eyes on him as you stumble through this brutal path while being screamed at, mocked, etc - it really does have a purpose rooted in total, complete, unfiltered and perfect love.


I do love reading your story, Angela and others. I love more than anything in this world to see a person say and mean that they will look directly to Jesus Christ now in every way possible. What a beautiful thing that is.

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Thank you Angelina, as I was reading your post, so many of what happened to you, happened exactly to me! Isn't it strange how God lead us?

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Hello all, Thanks Angelina for starting this thread. Here is my brief history:


My journey here started around 10 years ago. I was deeply engrained in the LDS faith and was unsatisfied by the lack of answers, so I expanded my search to LDS-adjacent books and blogs. I read a LOT of books; likely over a hundred. In each case I would read everything an author had written and then look for more. Eventually I found Rob's blog and books.


I thought the pattern of reading everything he had written and then moving on to someone else would repeat. Rob has put out an extremely large volume of material, and the flow of new ideas and truths keeps flowing. John 4:14 comes to mind when I think about this flow. I started with "Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" and honesty required me to make drastic changes. I left the church, lost most of my friends and offended everyone in my large LDS family.


But, as is always the case when we follow the Lord, I have gained much more than I have given up.


-Bret

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This is so powerful Bret, thank you. I am grateful I felt to nudge you to share. ๐Ÿ˜‰ I am inspired and encouraged from your example.


And it's my privilege to start this thread as a means for all of us to become better acquainted with one another. There are so many folks who can't make it to the talks and learn each other's stories there.


So this is an amazing way to find common experiences to strengthen us and help us all become better.

There's already enough meat posted at this early stage to keep us busy for a long time. Thanks again.

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